"Yeah, that's how you know it's bad," he chuckles at John's wry surprise.

The point stands, however. Even in one of the sources of Arthur's own pain, he can see the valid point occasionally being made, and pass on what little wisdom it has to offer.

John's surprise is interesting, though. "Yes, er- quite famously, actually, they're the original brothers. Nearly everyone who's from an Earth that has Christianity knows the story, even obliquely."